Episode 4
31 minutes MarTech Stacks for Consumer Tech Companies
Jacqueline Freedman, Founder and CEO of Monarch Advisory
Wisdom Over Hustle
Evidence-based marketing intelligence. Every episode answers one specific question with real data.
Hosted by the Zavops founder
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Episode 3
29 minutes MarTech 2025
Katie Evans, Attribution Consultant , Attributa
Episode 2
32 minutes MarTech 2025
Niranjan Bala, Senior Technical Architect at UpSkillist
Episode 1
27 minutes MarTech 2025 with Cory Huff
Cory Huff, VP of Cadre AI
What makes Wisdom Over Hustle different
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Every episode has one specific data point
Not trends — real findings from live client data and the Zavops agent stack.
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Guests must bring a number
Every guest is briefed to reference one specific metric or case finding. Opinions without evidence don't air.
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Practical, not inspirational
Every episode ends with one action the listener can take this week.